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Revan Neferis
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Posted - 2011.07.05 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: Codo Yagari May New Eden become a galaxy of peace and understanding!
What an heretical Nonsense. Gladly a nonsense that will never come to be, as the old saying beautifully teaches us in theory and practice: "War is like love, it always finds a way."
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2011.07.05 12:03:00 -
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Edited by: Revan Neferis on 05/07/2011 12:03:12
Originally by: Codo Yagari I understand and agree that peace and understanding will not be the dominant factor in New Eden until those such as yourself are eradicated from existence.
Indeed a fact. I'll never let heretical concepts against the laws of the Universe prevail while I hold power to prevent it.
Originally by: Codo Yagari So yes, war is part of existence, but it's purpose is to kill those who thrive on and support it, and thus it paves the way for eras of peace and enlightenment.
Wrong. When the rich wage war, it is the poor who die. For a man so eager to scream heretical concepts of peace, you need to understand how war strategies works first and why they are so profitable.
Still...you are an intriguing man, despite being a misguided infidel nonetheless.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik.
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Posted - 2011.07.05 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Raze Valadeus The irony of this thread is plainly apparent but I will make it even more apparent, a thread about tolerance and acceptance has been undermined with the usual angry, hostile and aggressive rhetoric common to the IGS.
Which part of the "Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius" have you skipped at the Theology Council obligatory teachings?
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Posted - 2011.07.05 13:53:00 -
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Edited by: Revan Neferis on 05/07/2011 13:53:53
Originally by: Revan Neferis
Originally by: Raze Valadeus The irony of this thread is plainly apparent but I will make it even more apparent, a thread about tolerance and acceptance has been undermined with the usual angry, hostile and aggressive rhetoric common to the IGS.
Which part of the "Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius" have you skipped at the Theology Council obligatory teachings?
Originally by: Raze Valadeus The part that indicates how it has any relevance whatsoever the original poster or his stated purpose with this event.
So not only you state that you deliberately choose to ignore the very premise of Amarr divine right to Supremacy but also state that an heretical event shall be supported by your endorsement?
Wow, this gets better by the day. No wonder why the tradional Amarr faith holds the shameful state of affairs reflected on voices like yours. So much for reclaiming of "vermins and ants" hum?
Do carry on with your heresy, needless to say, it serves me well.
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Posted - 2011.07.05 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: Raze Valadeus The only heretic between us is you, but at least you're honest about it.
Indeed I am. A lesson you should learn instead of resulting to ignorance to pave your supposed " Amarr loyalist ways ", as many have pointed already to you. You are not only ignorant about history of New Eden but also refuse to embrace in practice the words you so proudly utter. Start to BE the cause you suppose to represent instead of talking the talk and avoiding walking the walk, then you'll have a start point.
As another individual already pointed out, your lack of honesty about even who you are and what you do is striking, even more than your futile words. You're an hypocrite. In that sense at least its fair to say that this common trait of Amarr loyalists you indeed uphold bravely!
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Posted - 2011.07.05 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: Raze Valadeus Nice try though, better luck next time.
I think you're missing the point: I don't need to try anything, your life speaks alone. You betray Amarr traditions back and forth, you utter anti Amarrian heretical statements while fighting for the reclaiming inside Amarrian Militia. Your ability to be in such discrepancy with the Faith you claim to uphold is so striking that i barely need to point that out. All I need to do is to grant you a few seconds of my time now and sit and watch you continuing to compromise yourself with each post you do. Make no mistake, as I said before, It serves my faith very well otherwise I wouldn't be indulging you to proceed. Your words are very profitable to my cause.
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Posted - 2011.07.05 15:44:00 -
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Edited by: Revan Neferis on 05/07/2011 15:45:44
Originally by: Raze Valadeus If my willingness to acknowledge that the Empire is composed of imperfect beings, (supremacy to other imperfect beings does not automatically make someone perfect) capable of making mistakes, capable of being incorrect and capable of learning is heresy or disloyal to the Empire or the Amarrian people, then I am indeed a heretic and disloyal to the Empire. Otherwise, I am just an individual loyal to God and Empire with an understanding that we are not beyond our own sins.
The Amarr are Gods' people. Do I need to state how heretical your words are based on this very concept? You are not only commiting heresy against the Amarr tradition but also against Divinity. Just for sake of knowledge to the young and the ignorant of what Amarr stands for, a few examples:
"Our Lord visited his flock and saw that all was not good. Blasphemy and heresy ruled the land. The Lord punished the sinners and drowned them in their own blood. But the people of Amarr lived righteously and in fear of God. Thus they were saved and became God's chosen." - The Scriptures, Book II 2:1
Let me highlight this: They were saved. There is no imperfection or SIN on Gods chosen people.
"Casting his sight on his realm, the Lord witnessed The cascade of evil, the torrents of war. Burning with wrath, He stepped down from the Heavens To judge the unworthy, To redeem the pure." - The Scriptures, Book II, Revelations 2:12
Gods chosen are PURE.
"I give to you the destiny of Faith, And you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 22:13
Do I need to continue pointing our how many heretical statements you have done on that single post of yours that breaks so many of the most important precepts of Amarr scriptures? I guess not.
Yet, we found an answer to your own question:
Originally by: Raze Valadeus If my willingness to acknowledge that the Empire is composed of imperfect beings, (supremacy to other imperfect beings does not automatically make someone perfect) capable of making mistakes, capable of being incorrect and capable of learning is heresy or disloyal to the Empire or the Amarrian people, then I am indeed a heretic and disloyal to the Empire.
You are indeed an heretical and disloyal to the Empire. And I commend you for that.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2011.07.05 15:56:00 -
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Edited by: Revan Neferis on 05/07/2011 15:56:20
Originally by: Raze Valadeus Madame Neferis,
I could go into detail about those passages and explain to you how your judgments of my character and my faith are an incorrect application of the Scriptures, but that would be a discussion better served over an appropriate venue.
You are welcome to visit the Opera to make your points although if you ever dare to attempt that, come with knowledge. My former prathet can attest to you how I know Amarr traditional religion from inside out and upside down. I was one of them in times where information was given to us directly from those who mattered, not from capsuleers. I always defended the principle that to fight an enemy you must know it from inside. So come with facts and knowledge otherwise dont even try.
And no, this will not be made by a request of my former Prathet neither by disrupting which is per se an heretical thread. This will be done simply because I am curious to see if you have the courage of your convictions.
If yes, I'll see you at Opera one of those days. If not, we all know why.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2011.07.05 16:26:00 -
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Edited by: Revan Neferis on 05/07/2011 16:26:55
Originally by: Rodj Blake Interesting, given your earlier statements
You certainly are not implying that I said I follow Amarr scriptures right? I mean.. Right?
I'll let you perceive the absurdity of your own post before I call you to shame to it.
To young capsuleers :
Originally by: Revan Neferis This is the First premise of Bloodveil: God is dead, therefore man is free...
...The second Premise of Bloodveil: God has been a tremendous consolation, although it was a lie.
This is indeed the faith and the cult I follow, the cult of the Veil. God to me does NOT exist.
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Posted - 2011.07.05 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine lesbiantown system.
Now this sounds like something!
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Posted - 2011.07.05 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Revan Neferis
God to me does NOT exist.
Then I suggest that you are not the best person to lecture others on their ability to follow the Scriptures.
Your suggestion is as usual, discarded, as I, myself seem to know better about the faith I once followed than many of your new batch of lads there. Instead of making me silly suggestions, I instead suggest you to try to get your own people at least close to something that reminds New Eden of what Amarr Tradition really is. That would be a good start for you old man, perhaps a new quest.
And no pun intended, believe it or not I do mean it. I suddenly miss Gaius Kador on this regard.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2011.07.05 20:10:00 -
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Edited by: Revan Neferis on 05/07/2011 20:14:14
Originally by: Rodj Blake KotMC have been made aware of their failings in the past, and I'm sure that they will again in the future.
You seem to be growing soft with time Mr Blake. Something that I'm not yet sure if displeases me, or makes me happy.
Originally by: Rodj Blake But for someone who claims to know about Amarrian ways, you seem frighfully ignorant of the fact that we prefer to do such things in private.
I don't claim, I do know everything and a bit more about Amarrian ways, But it's hardly applicable to your argument considering that so many public scandals have been witnessed on this very IGS of late regarding Amarrian loyalists bickering and lecturing each other like the vermins and ants use to do. And this is part your fault too Blake for allowing this new generation to behave like that.
Originally by: Rodj Blake It's more dignified that way.
For those who engage on the traditional Amarrian ways, yes. But as I stated above, hardly something you can claim before you and yours start to restore the Amarrian traditions back to what it once were.
Again, don't take it as a criticism. I do believe that it's your duty and the duty of your house to start such quest. I praise good enemies as much as I praise good lovers and allied. It's a shame to see the Amarr tradition so tainted by the new generation embracing it.
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Posted - 2011.07.05 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Nidia Masters Maybe we should consider sending some friends over, hmmm, Lady Revan?
Mmmm... very tempting but I'm still observing if there will be any important target worth of my interest, aka, profitable to justify intervention. Incase yes, I'll let you know my dear.
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Posted - 2011.07.05 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
I consider myself every bit as "common" as those I intend to speak to.
I know of your insanities beauty, as I can only smile at the statement. I love your exquisite fetishes.
Originally by: Jade Constantine Still, the wonder of events in space is the chance for animosity to be played out for real across the tapestry of stars - and it would be a great shame for boasts to go untested if there is desire for display.
I certainly agree. May I find an interesting enemy worth of my time and to who I'll profit with it, as I already stated, I see no reason as why not entertaining the thought. It's not like it will be the first nor the last time that something like this would happen.
* blows a kiss *
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Posted - 2011.07.10 16:58:00 -
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Edited by: Revan Neferis on 10/07/2011 16:58:44
Originally by: Tamur Theorabies Dear audience: Empress Sarum is the harbinger of hope, the sword of the righteous. What we give to the her, she shall give back unto us. Under her reign, the Federation, the State and the holy Empire would all become one. There would be no longer wars or petty disputes. Reason and prosperity would prevail.
Only piece of speech worth savaging from the rest of veiled propagandas and empty nothingness. It resembles very much with the extracts of the Apocrypha, book of Initiations VII, verses 2,3:
In the Perfect Universe
There will be one religion, just the Sani Sabik philosophy of richness, power and wealth. There will be one government. There will be one army. Homelessness will never be an option. The unfit to produce wealth will be eliminated. Hunger will never cross the lips of man. The unfit to sustain himself will be eliminated. There will be no poverty. The unfit to use life as it is given will be eliminated. There will be no diseased. The unfit to use his body and mind to the greater development of mankind will be eliminated. There will be no evil, as the concept of evil itself will be forever banished from the minds of men. There will be no waste. The Universe will function as a perfect machine. Divinity and men, are one.
Obviously the Sani Sabik imput has more detailed visions about how this shall proceed, but your little speech regarding one single Universal order under the reign of Jamyl I is the closest it can get to it. For that, I commend you. It seems like this whole thing wasn't totally worthless after all.
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